Sunday, May 30, 2010


What a sensitive headline isn't? I've seen this video on youtube which was a religious debate between a muslim, Ahmad Deedat and a Christian Ph.D holder, Dr. Anis Sorosh. It really did thought me that being a muslim is a one great opportunity to see the truth. i don't want to write long but i believe you should read this. I'm quoting it quote on quote.

Anis     : The Christian believe that Jesus is God. What say you?
Deedat : This subject can be easily answered. Did Jesus claimed to be god? Did he said that I'm God, worship me? Because believe me, there is not a single statement in any of the 66 books of the Bible or in the 73 the Roman Catholics that Jesus said this simple sentence, 'I'm God'.

Anis  : If muslim believe in a God, then Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. Have you any problem with that?
Deedat: Yes. In the Christian religion of the holy churches, they say and i'm quoting it, 'That the Father is God, and the Son of Man is God and the Holy Ghost is God, but they are not three God but one God' I'm asking, what kind of language is that? It sounds like English but it's not English. It's impossible for a three different identities to be one!

Anis: We say Jesus is God because he was born miraculously, in which he was born out of Mary's womb yet without a father.
Deedat: If that is the only reason, then what about Adam? Then you must believe that Adam is a greater God since he did not have neither a father or a mother?

Anis: Jesus is God who resembles a man, so that the people can follow him easily.
Deedat: In Islam, it's a treason. Even the Bible once gave us what God is not. It says in the Book of Job, 25: Vrs 4-6, 'How then can Man be justified with God?' Hence, the Bible did said that how can a Man be compared to God? No man that has stayed for 9 months in a mother's womb can came out as God, whether he's a Moses, Jesus, or a Muhammad or a Krishna! Then the verse continues, 'How much less a Man who is but a Maggot.' If Jesus a Man, then Jesus a Maggot !?

Anis: Jesus is not a Man, but Jesus is the Son of Man.
Deedat: Well, it is told in the Bible in the Book of Job, 'How much less is a Man who is but a Maggot - and then the Son of Man who is but a worm!' Great, we're a Maggot and Jesus a worm ? Don't make any mistake, the verse continues in the Book of Luke verse 2:21 'And when he was 8 years old, he was circumsized.' God being circumsized !?

That's only a part of it. I really want you to see it on your own. Go and ask our Uncle Youtube.


إبن عدنان said...

I'll check it out!~

Luqman Safwan C.M Fauzi said...

very good!

Haziq Ghafar said...

kat youtube eh? ade specific link tak?

Luqman Safwan C.M Fauzi said...

die ade 16 parts yang part ahmad deedat start rebuttal part 8

topek said...

seriously, this. is soo useful!!! considering we might face the same arguement.( tambah2 kalau g overseas ) kudos!!

Luqman Safwan C.M Fauzi said...

topek: ok...aku mule2 ingat takde org nak bace pown post ni..but never mind la..thanx tpex..i suggest you go and watch u tube for this

embun d tengah malam said...

i try tgk

mad khaz said...

well,truly informative.. like that way he debate back.. :)

Luqman Safwan C.M Fauzi said...

azri:haha..dah tngok blum?hahaha

Anonymous said...

1st equation : i am a are a man..jesus is a man..
2nd equation : jesus is a GOD.
So, therefore if jesus is a GOD..i am a GOD..and you are also a GOD.

hahahahaha...what a very silly people of believing that jesus is a GOD..can you differentiate with a very rationale thinking between a man and a GOD? GOD is neither be born nor given birth. GOD is one and truly only one. HE is the creator of everything!!!

Miss Nurul said...

DOUBLE LIKE!!!! Kudos~

Luqman Safwan C.M Fauzi said...

haha...glad you like it!

Einstein junior said...

basically the concepts of trinity is totalyy aconfusing notion..but they seems to claim it as it had been stated in the bible and they have a complete faaith on it..looking into the bible,there is no such verse that support the idea of trinity except the verse from:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER,
the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST: and these three are one."

1st Epistle of John 5:7 - AV

but this verse is considered fabrication by bible scolars themselves!!Thus some say that jesus is god by quoting books of revelation 1:8

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

but books of revelation,if we understand the context is all about a dream of john..there is no such statement,in the real world that jesus claim "i am the god"

4 much more better understanding..u can visit r some free books there) or buy his collection of works:"the choice"

or youtube 2 see deedat in action...btw nice post luqman..

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